Biden won the White House, but Democrats lost ground in the U.S. House and the Iowa legislature. On this edition of River to River, the new chair of the Iowa Democratic Party, Ross Wilburn, speaks with host Ben Kieffer.

Kieffer asks for Wilburn’s take on Trump's popularity in Iowa and asks him to look ahead to 2022 and 2024. They also discuss the future of the Iowa caucuses and the debate over the nominating process one year after Iowa’s first-in-the-nation contest ended in a muddle of delayed results.